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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:36 pm 
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the heat is killer and my power windows stopped working im not getting power to the brown wire on the switch and the radio stopped working at the same time. not a fuse or relay any ideas or info would be greatly appreciated!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:38 pm 
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have you tried all the switches on each door?

Do the interior lights work? keyless entry?

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 Post subject: Re: need help fast!
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:52 pm 
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tryed all switches checked all fuses and the keyless entry only works to unlock it. had to connect direct power to the brown wire in the center of the the switch unit to close the windows before it rained. the switche works but its not getting power or its not grounding or somthing. there is power at all my fuses with the key on but not at the switch im at a loss. where would i find a ground for that stuff? and is the master switch a power distribution for the whole circuit?

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 Post subject: Re: need help fast!
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Here's a wiring diagram and some pictures of the driver's side ground bus & the metal bar that can corrode. Check both the driver & passenger side ground bus.

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 Post subject: Re: need help fast!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:14 am 
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thanks for the help ill check that today and keep u updated

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I checked the ground bus on both sides and everything is in place. Im down a power issue is there any common wiring problems to look for.

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you pulled the metal bar out of the plastic connector?

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 Post subject: Re: need help fast!
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yes they are fine and intact like i said it is a power issue im not getting power to the switches or the radio there is no problem with the key less entry or the interior lights. where (other than the fuse blocks) can i find a power issue? there is power at both the radio fuse under the steering coloum and the power window breaker under the hood both sides of eaach the fuse and the breaker.have power. i need somthing to go on power wise .. any info please?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:45 pm 
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if you have 12 v at ip fuse block, it would appear you have a broken wire/bad connection between ip pw relay and pw door switch. probably not a grounding problem since the windows work with power applied directly to switch. if you have ohm meter, test for continuity between ip pw relay and pw switch (pull pw relay first and connect ohm meter to pw side of fuse). if you don't have continuity, chase brown wire from pw door switch back to ip fuse block where visible. you might have to skin brown wire at some point and continue to apply 12 v in sections to isolate the break/poor connection including rubber tubing where wire feeds from body to door.


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If the master switch in the driver's door is bad, none will work. Pull the master switches, and put a wire jumper (use the schematic above) to bypass one window. Does it work when you use THAT switch with the bypass in the master (drivers) connector? If so, replace the master (drivers) switch.

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 Post subject: Re: need help fast!
PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:59 pm 
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Mechanical Mike wrote:
Here's a wiring diagram and some pictures of the driver's side ground bus & the metal bar that can corrode. Check both the driver & passenger side ground bus.

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May I ask you where you got the wire diagram from so that I can get the wire diagram for the hole car.


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 Post subject: Re: need help fast!
PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:28 pm 
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sorry guys i appreciate ur help but turns out it was a fuse. i only checked the obvious fuses before i wrote my post and apperently it was my radio fuse that was blown and causing the problem. who knew the radio would controll power to the PW relay.. well thanks again.. problem solved.

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